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		<title>Another patch for IPv6 users</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/30/3431.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Sepherosa Ziehau has another test patch for optimizing network speed; he&#8217;s looking for (but not exclusively) ipv6 users.  It&#8217;s pretty safe, though it will require a quickworld.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sepherosa Ziehau has <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/submit/2008-11/msg00008.html">another test patch</a> for optimizing network speed; he&#8217;s looking for (but not exclusively) ipv6 users.  It&#8217;s pretty safe, though it will <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/submit/2008-11/msg00009.html">require a quickworld</a>.</p>
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		<title>Details on git usage</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/30/3428.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 23:41:14 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert suggests summarizing your changes in the first line of your commit message, as that first line gets used by other tools that read from git.
Peter Avalos has set up a (speedy!) North American mirror of the DragonFly git repo.
Aggelos Economopoulos has been adding Git tips for DragonFly to a page on the [...]]]></description>
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<li>Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert suggests <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00170.html">summarizing your changes in the first line of your commit message</a>, as that first line gets used by other tools that read from git.</li>
<li>Peter Avalos has set up a (speedy!) <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00100.html">North American mirror</a> of the DragonFly git repo.</li>
<li><span title="AggelosEconomopoulos @ adsl199-179.kln.forthnet.gr[79.103.12.179]"><span class="nonexistent">Aggelos Economopoulos has been adding <a href="http://wiki.dragonflybsd.org/index.cgi/TypicalGitUsage">Git tips for DragonFly</a> to a page on the wiki.<br />
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		<title>Git git git git</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/29/3426.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Nov 2008 02:16:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The Git repositiory for DragonFly is up and running, and Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert asks people to use a mirror.  The update  messages to commit@ are working.  There&#8217;s places to see the repo via the web, too.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Git repositiory for DragonFly is up and running, and Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert asks people to <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00124.html">use a mirror</a>.  The update  <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00123.html">messages to commit@</a> are working.  There&#8217;s <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00094.html">places</a> to <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00095.html">see</a> the repo via the web, too.</p>
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		<title>Git conversion (almost) complete</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/27/3424.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 27 Nov 2008 23:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Instructions for using Git to access DragonFly source for users and committers has been posted, with a special note on the origin tag.  However, it&#8217;s not quite ready yet&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instructions for using Git to access DragonFly source for <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00122.html">users</a> and <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2008-11/msg00102.html">committers</a> has been posted, with a special <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2008-11/msg00103.html">note on the origin tag</a>.  However, it&#8217;s <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00093.html">not quite ready yet&#8230;</a></p>
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		<title>BSDTalk 166: Asterisk</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/26/3422.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 22:13:16 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[The latest BSDTalk is a 23-minute conversation with Asterisk Open Source Community Director John Todd.
These positions where someone works for a company, specifically to interact with a community of people who may produce unpaid work for that company, intrigue me.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The <a href="http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2008/11/bsdtalk166-asterisk-open-source.html">latest BSDTalk</a> is a 23-minute conversation with Asterisk Open Source Community Director John Todd.</p>
<p>These positions where someone works for a company, specifically to interact with a community of people who may produce unpaid work for that company, intrigue me.</p>
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		<title>HAL comes to DragonFly</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/25/3420.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 03:28:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks to the efforts of Hasso Tepper, support for the FreeDesktop HAL (hardware abstraction layer) using the bleeding-edge versions of DragonFly and pkgsrc is available.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks to <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00089.html">the efforts of Hasso Tepper</a>, support for the <a href="http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/hal">FreeDesktop HAL</a> (hardware abstraction layer) using the bleeding-edge versions of DragonFly and pkgsrc is <a href="http://pkgsrc.se/sysutils/hal">available</a>.</p>
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		<title>Recent bulk build results</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/24/3418.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Nov 2008 04:12:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasso Tepper recently finished a bulk build of pkgsrc on DragonFly 2.1, with only just under 5% of packages actually failing to build.  I think the &#8220;natural&#8221; average is around 3%-4% just from the natural disorder of over 8,000 3rd party software packages, so this is an excellent state to be in.
I&#8217;m working on a [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasso Tepper recently <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/~hasso/pbulk-logs/bulklog-20081119/meta/report.html">finished a bulk build of pkgsrc</a> on DragonFly 2.1, with only just under 5% of packages actually failing to build.  I think the &#8220;natural&#8221; average is around 3%-4% just from the natural disorder of over 8,000 3rd party software packages, so this is an excellent state to be in.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m working on a new set of 2.0.1 pkgsrc packages for download from pkgbox, incidentally.</p>
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		<title>Something to do</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/23/3415.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Nov 2008 15:08:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Lazy Sunday?  Running carp?  Why not try Sepherosa Ziehau&#8217;s carp patch?  No, I don&#8217;t know what it does.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lazy Sunday?  Running <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man/?command=carp">carp</a>?  Why not try Sepherosa Ziehau&#8217;s <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/users/2008-11/msg00087.html">carp patch</a>?  No, I don&#8217;t know what it does.</p>
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		<title>MeetBSD Slides</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/21/3413.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 02:05:44 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Dru Lavigne&#8217;s got a link to the slides from the recent MeetBSD event, plus links to video of her presentation.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dru Lavigne&#8217;s got a link to <a href="http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/bsd-guru/meetbsd-slides-and-video-28430">the slides from the recent MeetBSD event</a>, plus links to video of her presentation.</p>
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		<title>NVIDIA driver test</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/21/3411.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/21/3411.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 00:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert has a experimental version of the NVIDIA FreeBSD driver changed for DragonFly; the code is available without any support so it&#8217;s not as simple as a download, unfortunately.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Simon &#8216;corecode&#8217; Schubert has a <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2008-11/msg00074.html">experimental version of the NVIDIA FreeBSD driver</a> changed for DragonFly; the code is available without any support so it&#8217;s not as simple as a download, unfortunately.</p>
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		<title>More MeetBSD interviews in BSDTalk 165</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/20/3409.html</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[BSDTalk 165 has a 35-minute conversation with Julian Elischer while at MeetBSD.  I wonder how many interviews Will backman got out of this event&#8230;
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>BSDTalk 165 has a <a href="http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2008/11/bsdtalk165-julian-elischer.html">35-minute conversation with Julian Elischer</a> while at MeetBSD.  I wonder how many interviews Will backman got out of this event&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Where the sound went</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/19/3407.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/19/3407.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:29:35 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasso Tepper has made /dev/audio a symlink to /dev/dsp.  DragonFly&#8217;s sound device hasn&#8217;t been /dev/audio in a while, but until recently in pkgsrc, applications that used audio would default to /dev/audio for playback.  With this symlink, they all should work - or at least not be directing sound to a nonexistent device.
This isn&#8217;t dramatic news, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasso Tepper has <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00086.html">made /dev/audio a symlink to /dev/dsp</a>.  DragonFly&#8217;s sound device hasn&#8217;t been /dev/audio in a while, but until recently in pkgsrc, applications that used audio would default to /dev/audio for playback.  With this symlink, they all should work - or at least not be directing sound to a nonexistent device.</p>
<p>This isn&#8217;t dramatic news, but I can never remember which device is the right one, and this fixes that little issue for me.</p>
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		<title>Now that&#8217;s fast</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/19/3405.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/19/3405.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Nov 2008 03:26:59 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Sepherosa Ziehau has updated the Broadcom bge(4) network interface driver so that it apparently now goes as fast as possible; e.g. receiving at the full line rate of 1Gbps.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p style="text-align: left;">Sepherosa Ziehau has updated the Broadcom <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/cgi/web-man/?command=bge&amp;section=ANY">bge(4)</a> network interface driver so that it apparently now goes as fast as possible; e.g. <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00089.html">receiving at the full line rate of 1Gbps</a>.</p>
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		<title>MeetBSD wrapup</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/18/3403.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/18/3403.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Tue, 18 Nov 2008 16:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Dru Lavigne took notes at MeetBSD 2008, while Matthew Dillon took pictures, as did others.  There&#8217;s some neat technologies described there.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dru Lavigne took <a href="http://it.toolbox.com/blogs/bsd-guru/meetbsd-california-presentations-28333">notes</a> at MeetBSD 2008, while Matthew Dillon took <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/matthewdillon/sets/72157609384723817/">pictures</a>, as did <a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/tags/meetbsd/">others</a>.  There&#8217;s some neat technologies described there.</p>
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		<title>That&#8217;s a lot of files</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/17/3401.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/17/3401.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:56:37 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[David Tweed posted a short but interesting anecdote of his real-world experiences dealing with a large number of files, to follow up with a recent discussion on handling large directories with Hammer.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Tweed posted a <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/kernel/2008-11/msg00070.html">short but interesting anecdote</a> of his real-world experiences dealing with a large number of files, to follow up with a recent discussion on handling large directories with Hammer.</p>
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		<title>SATA ATAPI problems somewhat fixed</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/17/3398.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/17/3398.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:55:48 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasso Tepper has made some fixes to SATA ATAPI code that fix some of the issues with SATA CD/DVD readers, though some issues remain.  Please test if you&#8217;ve got the hardware to match.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasso Tepper has made <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/commits/2008-11/msg00082.html">some fixes</a> to SATA ATAPI code that fix some of the issues with SATA CD/DVD readers, though <a href="http://leaf.dragonflybsd.org/mailarchive/bugs/2008-11/msg00027.html">some issues remain</a>.  Please test if you&#8217;ve got the hardware to match.</p>
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		<title>Even more BSDTalk: 164</title>
		<link>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/16/3396.html</link>
		<comments>http://www.shiningsilence.com/dbsdlog/2008/11/16/3396.html#comments</comments>
		<pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:39:54 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Will Backman has another podcast up; this one being 38 minutes of FreeBSD Core Team interviews from the just-concluded MeetBSD event.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Backman has another podcast up; this one being <a href="http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2008/11/bsdtalk164-at-meetbsd-with-some-of.html">38 minutes of FreeBSD Core Team interviews</a> from the just-concluded <a href="http://meetbsd.com/">MeetBSD</a> event.</p>
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		<title>BSDTalk 163: iXsystems</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2008 19:36:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Will Backman visited iXsystems recently, and he has a 8 minute podcast with the details up as BSDTalk 163.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Will Backman visited <a href="http://ixsystems.com/">iXsystems</a> recently, and he has a <a href="http://bsdtalk.blogspot.com/2008/11/bsdtalk163-tour-of-ixsystems.html">8 minute podcast with the details</a> up as BSDTalk 163.</p>
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		<title>Python and Zope removal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 21:32:53 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[python15 and zope25 are being removed from pkgsrc, unless someone speaks up.  If you&#8217;re that someone, post to the tech-pkg@netbsd.org list about it.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://pkgsrc.se/lang/python15">python15</a> and <a href="http://pkgsrc.se/www/zope25">zope25</a> are being <a href="http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2008/11/15/msg002056.html">removed from pkgsrc</a>, unless someone speaks up.  If you&#8217;re that someone, post to the tech-pkg@netbsd.org list about it.</p>
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		<title>KDE progress</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Nov 2008 17:55:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Justin Sherrill</dc:creator>
		
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		<description><![CDATA[Hasso Tepper is taking advantage of his new pkgsrc commit bit and working on a KDE change, by removing the need to have arts included when building the rest of KDE.  He&#8217;s testing on DragonFly, so a side benefit will be better DragonFly integration.
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			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hasso Tepper is taking advantage of his new pkgsrc commit bit and <a href="http://mail-index.netbsd.org/tech-pkg/2008/11/14/msg002053.html">working on a KDE change</a>, by removing the need to have <a href="http://pkgsrc.se/audio/arts">arts</a> included when building the rest of KDE.  He&#8217;s testing on DragonFly, so a side benefit will be better DragonFly integration.</p>
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